Post by Rob W. Case on Mar 30, 2010 1:42:36 GMT -6
Since the amoral passage of the controversial Health Care bill on March 21st, 2010, Democrats who voted for the measure are really feeling the heat as the American people are outraged. This has led liberal Democrats and folks in the media to retreat, and actively do all they can to convince you that this bill is going to be good for you. But yet, there are some other components at work as well, and they are political, and morally and psychologically unhealthy, as well as dangerous.
Expect these things to surface on your major news outlets.
-Demonization
-Mockery
-Image-Creation
-Provoking Fights
Ronald Reagan said in a press conference in 1981 regarding the Marxists in the Soviet Union, that they….
“....openly and publicly declared that the only morality they recognize is what will further their cause, meaning they reserve unto themselves the right to commit any crime, to lie, to cheat, in order to attain that, and that is moral, not immoral, and we operate on a different set of standards, I think when you do business with them, even at a detente, you keep that in mind.”
This quote is in no way limited to the Soviet Russians, and the year 1981. This is an enduring truth that is evident in all extreme Marxists, especially the Marxists who are currently in charge of America today. Whether it is Marxism in the Soviet Union, or Marxism in America, Marxism is still Marxism, and the only morality to any Marxist is, as Saul Alinsky, a radical Marxist and Obama’s mentor put it, “the ends justifies the means.” It is the same force, made up of the same materials, but adopted and enacted by different vehicles (just new faces) to implement it all into action.
As I stated earlier, the tactics I am going to focus on are partisan demonization, mockery, Image-creation, and provoking fights.
Demonization:
Liberal Democrats for years have tried to demonize Republicans as racist, sexist, bigoted, homophobes. The purpose of this tactic is to make Republicans appear as though they are threatening to everybody who is not a white male Christian. But of course, it’s all appearance, and has no substantiated weight behind it whatsoever. In politics, for decades, the liberal Democrats in power have built a massive political system psychologically maintained by a certain process of thinking in order to keep the system secure. And yet, this type of thinking is not really thinking at all. It just creates a certain climate that simply recruits followers to the established system. Anyone opposite to that system, like say, an Independent thinker, is thought of as an enemy to the system, and everything that the system calls for. And yet, Independent thinkers come in all races, all sexes, all religions, and all creeds. We take Martin Luther King’s example when we look at the content of the character, and not the color of one’s skin, the sex of a certain person, the religion of a certain person, and so forth. That said, in the case of health care, liberal Democrats are trying to use the race card, the “evil capitalist” card, and everything else they can in one fell swoop to try and make opponents of this bill supporters, or work to shut opponents up entirely. One of the tactics recently lodged was against John Boehner, the minority leader of the House of Representatives. Union bosses tried to call for Boehner’s resignation because Boehner said that Steve Driehaus, a pro-life Democrat who voted for the Bill would be a “dead man.” When I saw this, I thought it was hilarious and so did Boehner, because Boehner obviously meant that Driehaus would be a dead man POLITICALLY when he returned to his largely pro-life Catholic voting district. In fact, if you read Boehner’s full remarks, the context makes this whole thing funny, and since the left does not have a real sense of humor, they are trying to sell it as something serious, as it is in fact a serious offense to threaten the life of any representative of any office of Government. The left is trying to suggest that Boehner’s idiom (which in this case, is a phrase that has a figurative meaning) is actual and that the meaning is literal!!! They were actually petty enough to treat it as if Boehner was publically threatening Driehaus’s life. In talking about pro-life Democrats who supported the bill which funds abortions at taxpayers expense, Boehner actually said, “Take [Rep.] Steve Driehaus, for example. He may be a dead man. He can’t go home to the west side of Cincinnati. The Catholics will run him out of town.” Since most Catholics are pro-life, and they voted for a pro-life Democrat, they will simply not vote for someone who voted for something that they put him in office to vote against. And that’s not the end of it. The coming weeks and months will reveal what’s next in their quest to demonize dissenting Americans.
Mockery:
Mockery is an art form with the sole purpose of making somebody appear silly or ridiculous. President Obama said shortly after his signing of the health care bill,
"I'm not exaggerating. Leaders of the Republican Party, they called the passage of this bill "Armageddon." (Laughter.) Armageddon. End of freedom as we know it. So after I signed the bill, I looked around to see if there any -- (laughter) -- asteroids falling or -- (applause) -- some cracks opening up in the Earth. (Laughter.) It turned out it was a nice day. (Laughter.) ... Birds were chirping. Folks were strolling down the Mall. People still have their doctors...”
Even though to the left, this was a funny remark, he really pissed off a lot of people, including many Independents and domestic Democrats who opposed this bill. Of course, the harshest provisions in this bill begin conveniently after the 2012 elections and the rest, when Obama’s 2nd term (if he has one) is close to expiration. Another form of mockery that was enabled was when Nancy Pelosi tried to contemptuously dismiss opposition to the the health care bill as nothing more than just Republicans making a big “whoop-de-doo.”
Read the article from the Chicago Sun Times:
www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/2119697,CST-NWS-sweet24.article
Mockery is a form of ridicule, and ridicule dismisses or reduces serious concerns and importance or quality of somebody or something in a contemptuous way. So, in essence, if you opposed the health care bill, according to Pelosi, you are simply dismissed as being a Republican simply making a big “whoop-de doo.” As the Marxist radical Saul Alinsky effectively taught, “Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also, it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.” And that’s not the end of it. The coming weeks and months will reveal what’s next in their quest to mock dissenting Americans.
Image Creation:
The media has for decades had a bias in favor towards Democrats. Rush Limbaugh called it for what it was in 1988, and then Bernard Goldberg, a former liberal who worked for CBS news wrote an article in 1996, and then a book in 2002 regarding the tactics his employers used to slant the news in favor of the Democrats. In 2004, you had the forged documents case regarding Dan Rather and George W. Bush’s military service, and in 2008, you had even worse bias in favor of Barack Obama. Now, the “mainstream” media is beyond bias. It is all out activist machine controlled by liberal loyalists in charge of the content and selling points. One of the most recent examples of this truth is the story regarding Sarah Palin’s speech in Nevada against Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. Sarah Palin recently spoke in a small town in Nevada, and CNN reported that only dozens of people were there. That doesn’t sound like many people showed up, does it? In fact, the image that is lodged against Sarah Palin is that, by the establishment anyway, Palin is an irrelevant annoyance that is an insignificant voice that represents the “hicks” over in “fly-over country.” So, to fit the image they were actively shooting for, the media tried to downplay her effectiveness and how many people she engaged to action. The truth was that there were over 10,000 people who came to see her, and yet CNN reported “dozens.” Then, there was the issue of the camera angles that were set to create the image that not many people paid heed to what she had to say. Of course, this would go over many people’s heads, except those who are experienced camera operators. Camera operators know exactly what I’m talking about. But it wasn’t just the angles that were an issue. The camera operators were actively searching for anything that would appear “extremist” so that they could paint the image that those who are against Obama are just irrelevant extremists. One of the biggest securities that liberals use is deception and one way to create deception is to distract people from the truth and create images to focus people’s attention on. If the truth was as openly wide and evident to the American people as these deceptive images are, liberals would never be in power. They need deception to win, even if it causes chaos, danger, and threatens peoples’ lives. They are only about empowering themselves and those who are in lock step with them, not you. The only thing they need you for is to vote for them so that they can simply take your hard earned money to buy support. And that’s not the end of it. The coming weeks and months will reveal what’s next in their quest to generate false images towards dissenting Americans.
Provoking Fights:
This works in sync with image creation as I will soon explain. Just the other day, the Congressional Black Caucus, walked slowly amongst the tea party crowd with cameras all around them. Some news reports claimed that some people shouted the N-Word to make the issue a racial one, not a health one. There’s no doubt, that that is a hope of the left, but was it accurate? No arrests were made, and it wouldn’t make sense to call someone the N-word, especially when the Tea Party protesters have black people within them. If that happened, they would be alienating even the black people who were protesting among them. Keeping the focus off of substance is what these extreme liberals do. After the passage of the health care bill, Nancy Pelosi walked amongst the Tea Party protesters with a giant gavel to rub their noses in it. Was she trying to ignite Civil unrest?
See the famous pic for yourself.
hillbuzz.org/2010/03/22/the-red-queen-nancy-pelosi-laughing-at-the-assault-on-the-constitution/
I strongly believe that the purpose of her walking, laughing, and gloating was to get people so angry that they would lose it and react irrationally so that the Democrats and the press can make it appear as though everybody who does not follow their agenda can be attributed to the one individual who acted irrationally on camera. Some have even gone so far as to say that Obama’s life is in danger when nobody made any threats against it. Watch, and see how this activist CNN “reporter” takes certain mannerisms and expands on it as if it is a security concern for the lives of the president and Congress.
www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-424449
Whoever said these people he is talking about were right wing? How do we know that these incidents are actually real incidents? How do we know that they are not outraged domestic Democrats that are making these threats? We don’t. They just assume that those making the threats are Tea Party activists. The power of suggestion is one attribute that the powers of the press has and uses, and believe me, they will stop at nothing to do all they can to keep Obama and these liberal Democrats in power. And that’s not the end of it. The coming weeks and months will reveal what’s next in their quest to put dissenting Americans in some sort of dangerous social position.
The Truth: Bringing it all Down to Earth
Equating this genocidal bill to Civil Rights legislation is evil and fierce in nature. It is evil and fierce in nature because it suggests that as a “civil rights bill” as they call it, Republicans do not care for “civil rights.” The use of such language would be aimed at winning over people who are not aware of the fact that Democrats were the driving force against Blacks in the 1940’s, 1950’s, and the 1960’s (after reconstruction began under Lincoln—a Republican) until they used it as an issue to further their own selfish ambitions. But truth be known, Bull Connor was a Democrat. Segregation was a platform used in the Democrat party. Lyndon Johnson voted against anti-lynching laws. Those who do not know these details and more will not understand, and are likelier to follow the deceptive image. This causes deep division and even danger among those who are racially sensitive to these issues and those who are simply opposed to a piece of legislation. The liberals saying and implying these evil things are only out to divide and conquer and cause civil unrest. As the Communist leader Vladimir Lenin once said, “We must hate. Hatred is the essence of communism.” One way to ignite hatred is to keep dwelling on the ills of the past, never forgive, and always hold a grudge, word it in moral terms, and exploit it to the fullest extent possible in hopes to create an awkward situation that will hopefully pressure people into conforming to the will of people using these tactics. The Reverend Jesse Lee Peterson, an African American leader who pushes for African Americans to be self-sufficient achievers calls this a shakedown. Now, we have a far left Marxist President, and a far left hyper-partisan Congress who actively and non-sparingly use hatred to advance their cause. Is our fight racial? No. Is our fight sexist? No. Is our fight against a religion? No. It is about a person’s health and right to life. That’s what this bill is about and life is what we are trying to uphold.
Truth about the Tea Party: Bringing it Back Down to Earth
The media seems to raise this image that the Tea Party movement is a movement of disgruntled, sore loser Republicans who want their power back. This image is not accurate by any means. The word “tea” in the Tea party movements are abbreviations which stands for Taxed Enough Already, and it is a movement that returns us to the ideals which founded this country and inspired the Constitution. The Tea party is not just Conservatives and Republicans, but is comprised of Independents, domestic Democrats, and even Conservative Democrats who feel that their voices have been completely shut out of the debate. And why wouldn’t they think that? Their voices have been completely shut out of the debate. The movement is diverse, and has within it…
African Americans, or as Lloyd Marcus describes it, unhyphenated Americans.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZkvkLmkYVg
Women:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dKVYtyp0_4
Christians:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP4PJlufZ0c&feature=fvw
Atheists:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl8v9wGfpQI
Muslims:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po1VVM7usSE&feature=PlayList&p=5023B8497D1FB8FE&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=8
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdXcRNQSAzk&feature=channel
….and everyone else who simply has a yearning for freedom.
And yet, amidst all of the social chaos they are trying to inflict, the liberals in power are not focusing on the substance of anything at all. Their nature is never rooted in substance. They cannot afford it to. With truth at odds with them, they have to do all they can to divert attention away from the truth, and I mean EVERYTHING. With the truth in a state of suppression, the only other alternatives left for them is demonization, creating false images, mockery, and provoking fights over legislation of which the content within it is not being addressed, but exploitation regarding the color of skin of the person presenting it is. God help us.
Expect these things to surface on your major news outlets.
-Demonization
-Mockery
-Image-Creation
-Provoking Fights
Ronald Reagan said in a press conference in 1981 regarding the Marxists in the Soviet Union, that they….
“....openly and publicly declared that the only morality they recognize is what will further their cause, meaning they reserve unto themselves the right to commit any crime, to lie, to cheat, in order to attain that, and that is moral, not immoral, and we operate on a different set of standards, I think when you do business with them, even at a detente, you keep that in mind.”
This quote is in no way limited to the Soviet Russians, and the year 1981. This is an enduring truth that is evident in all extreme Marxists, especially the Marxists who are currently in charge of America today. Whether it is Marxism in the Soviet Union, or Marxism in America, Marxism is still Marxism, and the only morality to any Marxist is, as Saul Alinsky, a radical Marxist and Obama’s mentor put it, “the ends justifies the means.” It is the same force, made up of the same materials, but adopted and enacted by different vehicles (just new faces) to implement it all into action.
As I stated earlier, the tactics I am going to focus on are partisan demonization, mockery, Image-creation, and provoking fights.
Demonization:
Liberal Democrats for years have tried to demonize Republicans as racist, sexist, bigoted, homophobes. The purpose of this tactic is to make Republicans appear as though they are threatening to everybody who is not a white male Christian. But of course, it’s all appearance, and has no substantiated weight behind it whatsoever. In politics, for decades, the liberal Democrats in power have built a massive political system psychologically maintained by a certain process of thinking in order to keep the system secure. And yet, this type of thinking is not really thinking at all. It just creates a certain climate that simply recruits followers to the established system. Anyone opposite to that system, like say, an Independent thinker, is thought of as an enemy to the system, and everything that the system calls for. And yet, Independent thinkers come in all races, all sexes, all religions, and all creeds. We take Martin Luther King’s example when we look at the content of the character, and not the color of one’s skin, the sex of a certain person, the religion of a certain person, and so forth. That said, in the case of health care, liberal Democrats are trying to use the race card, the “evil capitalist” card, and everything else they can in one fell swoop to try and make opponents of this bill supporters, or work to shut opponents up entirely. One of the tactics recently lodged was against John Boehner, the minority leader of the House of Representatives. Union bosses tried to call for Boehner’s resignation because Boehner said that Steve Driehaus, a pro-life Democrat who voted for the Bill would be a “dead man.” When I saw this, I thought it was hilarious and so did Boehner, because Boehner obviously meant that Driehaus would be a dead man POLITICALLY when he returned to his largely pro-life Catholic voting district. In fact, if you read Boehner’s full remarks, the context makes this whole thing funny, and since the left does not have a real sense of humor, they are trying to sell it as something serious, as it is in fact a serious offense to threaten the life of any representative of any office of Government. The left is trying to suggest that Boehner’s idiom (which in this case, is a phrase that has a figurative meaning) is actual and that the meaning is literal!!! They were actually petty enough to treat it as if Boehner was publically threatening Driehaus’s life. In talking about pro-life Democrats who supported the bill which funds abortions at taxpayers expense, Boehner actually said, “Take [Rep.] Steve Driehaus, for example. He may be a dead man. He can’t go home to the west side of Cincinnati. The Catholics will run him out of town.” Since most Catholics are pro-life, and they voted for a pro-life Democrat, they will simply not vote for someone who voted for something that they put him in office to vote against. And that’s not the end of it. The coming weeks and months will reveal what’s next in their quest to demonize dissenting Americans.
Mockery:
Mockery is an art form with the sole purpose of making somebody appear silly or ridiculous. President Obama said shortly after his signing of the health care bill,
"I'm not exaggerating. Leaders of the Republican Party, they called the passage of this bill "Armageddon." (Laughter.) Armageddon. End of freedom as we know it. So after I signed the bill, I looked around to see if there any -- (laughter) -- asteroids falling or -- (applause) -- some cracks opening up in the Earth. (Laughter.) It turned out it was a nice day. (Laughter.) ... Birds were chirping. Folks were strolling down the Mall. People still have their doctors...”
Even though to the left, this was a funny remark, he really pissed off a lot of people, including many Independents and domestic Democrats who opposed this bill. Of course, the harshest provisions in this bill begin conveniently after the 2012 elections and the rest, when Obama’s 2nd term (if he has one) is close to expiration. Another form of mockery that was enabled was when Nancy Pelosi tried to contemptuously dismiss opposition to the the health care bill as nothing more than just Republicans making a big “whoop-de-doo.”
Read the article from the Chicago Sun Times:
www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/2119697,CST-NWS-sweet24.article
Mockery is a form of ridicule, and ridicule dismisses or reduces serious concerns and importance or quality of somebody or something in a contemptuous way. So, in essence, if you opposed the health care bill, according to Pelosi, you are simply dismissed as being a Republican simply making a big “whoop-de doo.” As the Marxist radical Saul Alinsky effectively taught, “Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also, it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.” And that’s not the end of it. The coming weeks and months will reveal what’s next in their quest to mock dissenting Americans.
Image Creation:
The media has for decades had a bias in favor towards Democrats. Rush Limbaugh called it for what it was in 1988, and then Bernard Goldberg, a former liberal who worked for CBS news wrote an article in 1996, and then a book in 2002 regarding the tactics his employers used to slant the news in favor of the Democrats. In 2004, you had the forged documents case regarding Dan Rather and George W. Bush’s military service, and in 2008, you had even worse bias in favor of Barack Obama. Now, the “mainstream” media is beyond bias. It is all out activist machine controlled by liberal loyalists in charge of the content and selling points. One of the most recent examples of this truth is the story regarding Sarah Palin’s speech in Nevada against Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. Sarah Palin recently spoke in a small town in Nevada, and CNN reported that only dozens of people were there. That doesn’t sound like many people showed up, does it? In fact, the image that is lodged against Sarah Palin is that, by the establishment anyway, Palin is an irrelevant annoyance that is an insignificant voice that represents the “hicks” over in “fly-over country.” So, to fit the image they were actively shooting for, the media tried to downplay her effectiveness and how many people she engaged to action. The truth was that there were over 10,000 people who came to see her, and yet CNN reported “dozens.” Then, there was the issue of the camera angles that were set to create the image that not many people paid heed to what she had to say. Of course, this would go over many people’s heads, except those who are experienced camera operators. Camera operators know exactly what I’m talking about. But it wasn’t just the angles that were an issue. The camera operators were actively searching for anything that would appear “extremist” so that they could paint the image that those who are against Obama are just irrelevant extremists. One of the biggest securities that liberals use is deception and one way to create deception is to distract people from the truth and create images to focus people’s attention on. If the truth was as openly wide and evident to the American people as these deceptive images are, liberals would never be in power. They need deception to win, even if it causes chaos, danger, and threatens peoples’ lives. They are only about empowering themselves and those who are in lock step with them, not you. The only thing they need you for is to vote for them so that they can simply take your hard earned money to buy support. And that’s not the end of it. The coming weeks and months will reveal what’s next in their quest to generate false images towards dissenting Americans.
Provoking Fights:
This works in sync with image creation as I will soon explain. Just the other day, the Congressional Black Caucus, walked slowly amongst the tea party crowd with cameras all around them. Some news reports claimed that some people shouted the N-Word to make the issue a racial one, not a health one. There’s no doubt, that that is a hope of the left, but was it accurate? No arrests were made, and it wouldn’t make sense to call someone the N-word, especially when the Tea Party protesters have black people within them. If that happened, they would be alienating even the black people who were protesting among them. Keeping the focus off of substance is what these extreme liberals do. After the passage of the health care bill, Nancy Pelosi walked amongst the Tea Party protesters with a giant gavel to rub their noses in it. Was she trying to ignite Civil unrest?
See the famous pic for yourself.
hillbuzz.org/2010/03/22/the-red-queen-nancy-pelosi-laughing-at-the-assault-on-the-constitution/
I strongly believe that the purpose of her walking, laughing, and gloating was to get people so angry that they would lose it and react irrationally so that the Democrats and the press can make it appear as though everybody who does not follow their agenda can be attributed to the one individual who acted irrationally on camera. Some have even gone so far as to say that Obama’s life is in danger when nobody made any threats against it. Watch, and see how this activist CNN “reporter” takes certain mannerisms and expands on it as if it is a security concern for the lives of the president and Congress.
www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-424449
Whoever said these people he is talking about were right wing? How do we know that these incidents are actually real incidents? How do we know that they are not outraged domestic Democrats that are making these threats? We don’t. They just assume that those making the threats are Tea Party activists. The power of suggestion is one attribute that the powers of the press has and uses, and believe me, they will stop at nothing to do all they can to keep Obama and these liberal Democrats in power. And that’s not the end of it. The coming weeks and months will reveal what’s next in their quest to put dissenting Americans in some sort of dangerous social position.
The Truth: Bringing it all Down to Earth
Equating this genocidal bill to Civil Rights legislation is evil and fierce in nature. It is evil and fierce in nature because it suggests that as a “civil rights bill” as they call it, Republicans do not care for “civil rights.” The use of such language would be aimed at winning over people who are not aware of the fact that Democrats were the driving force against Blacks in the 1940’s, 1950’s, and the 1960’s (after reconstruction began under Lincoln—a Republican) until they used it as an issue to further their own selfish ambitions. But truth be known, Bull Connor was a Democrat. Segregation was a platform used in the Democrat party. Lyndon Johnson voted against anti-lynching laws. Those who do not know these details and more will not understand, and are likelier to follow the deceptive image. This causes deep division and even danger among those who are racially sensitive to these issues and those who are simply opposed to a piece of legislation. The liberals saying and implying these evil things are only out to divide and conquer and cause civil unrest. As the Communist leader Vladimir Lenin once said, “We must hate. Hatred is the essence of communism.” One way to ignite hatred is to keep dwelling on the ills of the past, never forgive, and always hold a grudge, word it in moral terms, and exploit it to the fullest extent possible in hopes to create an awkward situation that will hopefully pressure people into conforming to the will of people using these tactics. The Reverend Jesse Lee Peterson, an African American leader who pushes for African Americans to be self-sufficient achievers calls this a shakedown. Now, we have a far left Marxist President, and a far left hyper-partisan Congress who actively and non-sparingly use hatred to advance their cause. Is our fight racial? No. Is our fight sexist? No. Is our fight against a religion? No. It is about a person’s health and right to life. That’s what this bill is about and life is what we are trying to uphold.
Truth about the Tea Party: Bringing it Back Down to Earth
The media seems to raise this image that the Tea Party movement is a movement of disgruntled, sore loser Republicans who want their power back. This image is not accurate by any means. The word “tea” in the Tea party movements are abbreviations which stands for Taxed Enough Already, and it is a movement that returns us to the ideals which founded this country and inspired the Constitution. The Tea party is not just Conservatives and Republicans, but is comprised of Independents, domestic Democrats, and even Conservative Democrats who feel that their voices have been completely shut out of the debate. And why wouldn’t they think that? Their voices have been completely shut out of the debate. The movement is diverse, and has within it…
African Americans, or as Lloyd Marcus describes it, unhyphenated Americans.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZkvkLmkYVg
Women:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dKVYtyp0_4
Christians:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP4PJlufZ0c&feature=fvw
Atheists:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl8v9wGfpQI
Muslims:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po1VVM7usSE&feature=PlayList&p=5023B8497D1FB8FE&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=8
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdXcRNQSAzk&feature=channel
….and everyone else who simply has a yearning for freedom.
And yet, amidst all of the social chaos they are trying to inflict, the liberals in power are not focusing on the substance of anything at all. Their nature is never rooted in substance. They cannot afford it to. With truth at odds with them, they have to do all they can to divert attention away from the truth, and I mean EVERYTHING. With the truth in a state of suppression, the only other alternatives left for them is demonization, creating false images, mockery, and provoking fights over legislation of which the content within it is not being addressed, but exploitation regarding the color of skin of the person presenting it is. God help us.