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Post by bostondave on Jul 8, 2020 4:33:51 GMT -6
I could write pages chronicling how this guy is a despicable reprehensible human being. He said "you should see this guy" and then started making all these spastic hand movements. He was definitely mocking him. And you discount so blithely him talking about sexual assaulting unwilling women. You didn't address his repugnant punching on McCain while dying of cancer. Must I really fill up a page showing how noxious and despicable a human being he is? Because I can if I must. Now please explain what's happened to you that you can support such a person? He is hands down the worst person we've ever elected from a decency standpoint. Yet you support him. What has happened to cons principles of human decency? You forgive them for this guy? Why?
I didn't miss the trick you pulled there. Try to be honest and stand up straightly and honestly. Putin said in Helsinky he supported Traitor. Does that mean Putin wants to make America great, or does it mean Putin sees destruction of America, which is acknowledged as his desire, in Traitor? Confront this question please. And regarding the bounties on American heads how do you feel that Traitor doesn't even seem curious about getting to the bottom of it? Not even the slightest attempt. Calling it a hoax and fake offhand. Do YOU think there should be a REAL investigation into the matter?
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Post by Rob W. Case on Jul 8, 2020 16:28:57 GMT -6
I could write pages chronicling how this guy is a despicable reprehensible human being. He said "you should see this guy" and then started making all these spastic hand movements. He was definitely mocking him. And you discount so blithely him talking about sexual assaulting unwilling women. You didn't address his repugnant punching on McCain while dying of cancer. Must I really fill up a page showing how noxious and despicable a human being he is? Because I can if I must. Now please explain what's happened to you that you can support such a person? He is hands down the worst person we've ever elected from a decency standpoint. Yet you support him. What has happened to cons principles of human decency? You forgive them for this guy? Why?
Well, obviously you never saw the guy he was mocking. Serge Kovaleski doesn't move spastically at all. Apart from the deformity in his hand, he looks and acts normal in a general sense, and speaks calmly and articulately. As for Trump and McCain, they have had strong tensions particularly because Trump is a problem solver with ambitions to get things done, and McCain was a D.C. friendly career politician, who was too friendly with the lobby/special interest groups. He was really weak and used his power as a weapon to spite Trump, which became a weapon to the American people since Trump was working on problems that he was elected to solve. As for the sexual assault claim, am I to assume that you are not going to vote for Joe Biden then on account of Tara Reade's claim of sexual assault. Comb the internet. You can see videos of him sniffing women's hair, rubbing his hands up and down their bodies, including little girls. It's right there, out in the open, and there are so many of these videos out there to where you can't say that these are isolated incidents. I'm dying to hear your thoughts on that.
The bottom line is this; Trump is not a perfect person. I get that, and I know that. Many of his shortcomings and behaviors comes from being a celebrity. But I have MORE OF A PROBLEM with a party that openly adopts and embraces infanticide (allowing abortion up to birth), does nothing but cause unnecessary drama and resistance towards the policies that are clearly best for the country, stands by doing nothing while their idiot minions burn cities to the ground, murdering people, destroying lives and livelihoods in the process, pockets hard cash by the same insidious people who fund these groups burning down those cities, abuses government institutions and agencies illegally in order to drive out an elected president that they hate with an unbridled passion (they did this to individuals and groups before Trump ran for president too), push for globalism, work against our liberties day in and day out, seek to eliminate firearms, and the list goes on and on. Those things involve murder, corruption, violence, and selling out our country (treason?). They are brazen and extreme, and do or fight for nothing that is of any value to us. Trump fights like hell to keep his promises, and the level of toxic negativity from the groups that are working against us, shows us that what Trump is doing is actually working on our behalf. I would rather have someone in office doing what is best for the country than I would have for a bunch of reprobate sellouts who fight hard against everything that does this country good, and that is truly moral, ethical, and of principle.
I didn't miss the trick you pulled there. Try to be honest and stand up straightly and honestly. Putin said in Helsinky he supported Traitor. Does that mean Putin wants to make America great, or does it mean Putin sees destruction of America, which is acknowledged as his desire, in Traitor? Confront this question please. And regarding the bounties on American heads how do you feel that Traitor doesn't even seem curious about getting to the bottom of it? Not even the slightest attempt. Calling it a hoax and fake offhand. Do YOU think there should be a REAL investigation into the matter?
Trick? What trick? I never heard Putin endorse Trump for a 2nd term. If that were truly the case, CNN would be covering it nonstop. As for the bounty hunter story, this story is classified information, and it is a felony to even report it, so the anonymous leaker needs to be charged and imprisoned. Why? Because this might be being investigated and the workings of the investigation need to be kept secret. Also, by releasing this information, it could endanger the life of the person and/or system that is revealing it, so he or she is now in danger. There are many factors to this. There is a reason why this was classified and kept secret. Democrats are loud, abrasive, extremely political, and dangerous because they are clanging the cymbals and quick to politicize this matter while there needs to be questions asked and details looked into, which may now be botched. Trump has placed so many economic sanctions on Russia that the only other options now may either fracture our relationship with them (which is critically dangerous considering that they are a nuclear power), or go to war with them. With the politicization of all of this, this could be damaging on many fronts. And still, not enough details have come to light, assuming that it is in fact true.
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Post by bostondave on Jul 8, 2020 18:16:39 GMT -6
Well, obviously you never saw the guy he was mocking. Serge Kovaleski doesn't move spastically at all. Apart from the deformity in his hand, he looks and acts normal in a general sense, and speaks calmly and articulately. As for Trump and McCain, they have had strong tensions particularly because Trump is a problem solver with ambitions to get things done, and McCain was a D.C. friendly career politician, who was too friendly with the lobby/special interest groups. He was really weak and used his power as a weapon to Trump, which became a weapon to the American people. As for the sexual assault claim, am I to assume that you are not going to vote for Joe Biden on account of Tara Reade's claim of sexual assault. Comb the internet. You can see videos of him sniffing people's hair, rubbing his hands up and down their bodies, including little girls. It's right there, out in the open. I'm dying to hear your thoughts on that.
The bottom line is this; Trump is not a perfect person. I get that, and I know that.
Biden is an affectionate person and he never ran his hands up and down the body of little girls. And it's not a matter of him being "not a perfect person". He's a despicable, reprehensible, repugnant human being. You cons have held yourselves as the moral arbiters and holders of family values yet you follow this evil person. WHy? Be honest. There has to be a deeper reason you're not saying. You can hold your conservative views while opposing this abomination, but you don't. There are many with real conservative bonafides who have had them for years you could support. Why this evil person? I could write a page showing how odious and noxious he is. Itd take pages chronicling his lies. What attracts you to this one in particular? Do you consider yourself a cultist of a sort? And the bounty issue has been around for over a year. It's that Traitor ignored it because he's in Putin's pocket. How many more converging facts do you need to see to admit this? And lets not forget the original "Russia, if you're listening....". You have mentioned love of America. That's not love of America. That's a betrayal of America. Why do you support this betrayal?
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Post by Rob W. Case on Jul 8, 2020 21:15:02 GMT -6
Biden is an affectionate person and he never ran his hands up and down the body of little girls.
Oh, yeah? You don't seem to think that this is a little "too close for comfort", especially for little girls?
I particularly chose this video because in such a short time span, it covers multiple instances.
And it's not a matter of him being "not a perfect person". He's a despicable, reprehensible, repugnant human being. You cons have held yourselves as the moral arbiters and holders of family values yet you follow this evil person. WHy? Be honest. There has to be a deeper reason you're not saying. You can hold your conservative views while opposing this abomination, but you don't. There are many with real conservative bonafides who have had them for years you could support. Why this evil person? I could write a page showing how odious and noxious he is. Itd take pages chronicling his lies. What attracts you to this one in particular? Do you consider yourself a cultist of a sort?
Go back and read the last post. I gave you a list. This activist media has way too much of a stronghold on you, as your biases and prejudices are clearly attuned to the Democrat Party, and as such you are clearly reacting to what you've heard from their cohorts. Trump's policies are doing great things in many areas, but the media, is trying desperately to distract the country from their effect and results with all of this inane and useless drama, not to mention mayhem and chaos.
Putin: I wanted Trump to win the election. So again, does that mean Putin wants to make America great? Someone acknowledged as hating America? What do you think? And the bounty issue has been around for over a year. It's that Traitor ignored it because he's in Putin's pocket. How many more converging facts do you need to see to admit this? And lets not forget the original "Russia, if you're listening....". You have mentioned love of America. That's not love of America. That's a betrayal of America. Why do you support this betrayal?
LOL!!! That was in 2018 regarding the 2016 election. You made it sound like Putin was endorsing Trump for 2020. At any rate....that question was a political attempt by an activist to lend credence to Russiagate. What's Putin supposed to say in front of the President of the United States and a room full of people? "No, I didn't want him to win" or try to avoid answering entirely? The two held a summit to address relations between the two countries, sanctions, and matters of trade. The last thing you do is say something negative about someone you need to do business with, or appeal to to lift a penalty, which is exactly what a sanction is. This article highlights some of the matters and concerns addressed at that summit. So, this brings me to my next question. Did Trump benefit from this summit in some way, or what "reward" did Putin get on account of this summit? I'm curious.
My support for President Trump has many factors, but mainly in the fact that he is not a politician, so he doesn't care to make friends with the D.C. career politicians, bureaucrats, lobbyists, and special interest groups that so many of them are held captive to. He is a business man who can't be bought, which places him in a position to where he has the freedom to call the shots. And when he does, it is to change things to bring more leverage (and more income) back to the people who supported him. And he has. And the career politicians, bureaucrats, lobbyists, and special interest groups have all taken a back seat since he has been president to make things better for working Americans, the ones who were dealt the back seat when Barack Obama was president. And judging from a policy standpoint, I am not disappointed.
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Post by doug1943 on Jul 9, 2020 5:36:18 GMT -6
Putin does what he thinks is best for Russia. Traditionally, the Democrats were less aggessively anti-Communist than the Republicans, and so the Russians -- when it was the Soviet Union -- supported the Democrats.
The Communist Party USA switched from seriously runing its own candidates, to supporting the Democrats, in 1936. After WWII as the Cold War began and the Soviets were in a more aggressive mood, consolidating their power in Eastern Europe, they had the CPUSA support an independent party, the Progressive Party, which ran former VP Henry Wallace (who was not a Communist, just a bit naive). They pretty much controlled the Progressive Party, however. But after that, the CP supported the Democrats, right up to today. (The head of the Communist Party in a major US city is also a Democratic Precinct Chairman!)
So ... it's utterly hypocritical for leftists to say, "Oh Putin wanted Trump to win, therefore he must be a bad person" since their candidates have been the beneficiaries of Communist support for more than seventy years!
Democrats were very happy to have the support of Communists, just as they were very happy to have the support of Southern KKK members, and are very happy to have the support of Louis Farakhan, the anti-Semite, today.
By the way, I am NOT saying that the Republicans are any better in this respect. Just that they are no worse.
Putin probably wanted Trump to win, because Trump, unlike Hillary, is not tied to the traditional Keep-the-Cold-War-Going view of the Washington foreign policy establishment. It's in Russia's interest not to have a Cold Warrior in the White House ... and it's in the interests of almost everyone else in the world as well.
Trump has no particular elaborated view on foreign policy, but at least he is not committed to keeping our troops trying to carry out the fool's errand of bringing liberal democracy to the warring savage tribes of the Middle East and beyond.
I would much prefer someone with a deep understanding of history and of international relations. Or at least a firm commitment to getting out of the impossible task of transforming, at bayonet point, backward nations. But the Democrats didn't want Tulsi Gabbard -- in fact Hillary called her a Russian asset.
So Trump it is. Well, you go to war with the army you've got.
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Post by bostondave on Jul 9, 2020 11:21:10 GMT -6
The over-riding difference is no Dem has ever invited any Russian, or Soviet, to come and meddle in our internal affairs. How do you feel about that? Direct cyber-attack against us by Putin and Russia aided and abetted by a President and a Party in the USA? That is unprecedented and very dangerous.
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Post by bostondave on Jul 9, 2020 11:24:47 GMT -6
And it's not a matter of him being "not a perfect person". He's a despicable, reprehensible, repugnant human being. You cons have held yourselves as the moral arbiters and holders of family values yet you follow this evil person. WHy? Be honest. There has to be a deeper reason you're not saying. You can hold your conservative views while opposing this abomination, but you don't. There are many with real conservative bonafides who have had them for years you could support. Why this evil person? I could write a page showing how odious and noxious he is. Itd take pages chronicling his lies. What attracts you to this one in particular? Do you consider yourself a cultist of a sort? Go back and read the last post. I gave you a list. This activist media has way too much of a stronghold on you, as your biases and prejudices are clearly attuned to the Democrat Party, and as such you are clearly reacting to what you've heard from their cohorts. Trump's policies are doing great things in many areas, but the media, is trying desperately to distract the country from their effect and results with all of this inane and useless drama, not to mention mayhem and chaos.
My support for President Trump has many factors, but mainly in the fact that he is not a politician, so he doesn't care to make friends with the D.C. career politicians, bureaucrats, lobbyists, and special interest groups that so many of them are held captive to. He is a business man who can't be bought, which places him in a position to where he has the freedom to call the shots. And when he does, it is to change things to bring more leverage (and more income) back to the people who supported him. And he has. And the career politicians, bureaucrats, lobbyists, and special interest groups have all taken a back seat since he has been president to make things better for working Americans, the ones who were dealt the back seat when Barack Obama was president. And judging from a policy standpoint, I am not disappointed.
"Whataboutery" is a weak argument to have to resort to. Traitor is rotten to his core. He is amazingly stupid, immature, a pathological liar and a cheat. IMO he's a pychopath/sociopath. It's clear he's got multiple personality, mental and learning disorders. His niece, a trained clinical psychologist, says this. THis is not from some "activist media" or whatever you call it. He does almost everything in plain view. What he keeps hidden would probably curl your hair. I shudder to think what he's doing in the background. Now I want us to reach some agreement to what is plainly obvious. You might not to be so harsh as to call him a sociopath or psychopath, but you've got to do something better than to say you know he's "not perfect". No he's far from perfect. So before I post at least a page to bolster the fact of his rottenness we can agree that he's the meanest nastiest most corrupt POTUS in US history. And for that you CAN use "whataboutery" to quantify that assessment. TO chronicle his lies would take pages, as in plural, pages.
We will leave off the traitorous Russia stuff for now, keeping in mind it's still in the background and adds to his corruption but for now we can leave off of it and focus on his plain old stupidity, nastiness, evilness and corruption. So, what's it going to be? An admission to his toxicity now and moving on or at least a page showing it?
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Post by doug1943 on Jul 10, 2020 7:08:14 GMT -6
I am definitely not an admirer of Mr Trump. I would far have preferred an American Churchill -- hell, I would have preferred an American Kennedy or Nixon! But you go to war with the army you've got. Let's look at this issue of "patriotism": it's a neutral virtue. A patriot loves his country, warts and all. This is not always a good thing! Hitler benefitted from the intense patriotism of ordinary Germans -- nearly half of whom had voted Communist or Socialist in the last free election they were allowed to have -- and so the Germans resisted the Allies long after it was obvious that they had lost the war. So we shouldn't celebrate patriotism abstractly -- as we do honesty and compassion -- but only in certain concrete instances. People are patriotic for the same reason that they love themselves, then their immediate family, then their extended family, and so on 'outward'. There are strong Darwinian reasons for this: for most nations, patriotism -- the love of their nation -- is simply an extenstion of family-love, clan-love, tribal-love. But America, founded by and continually peopled by immigrants of all nations, while also being made up of peoples whose ancestors became Americans involuntarily -- Native Americans, African-Americans, and those Hispanics in the area stolen from Mexico in 1845 -- this America has been different. Because American patriotism is not based on a 'nation' ... i.e. a single tribe, an extended biological family. It is based on ... well, being an American, which means being a citizen of a nation that was founded on the premise that "All men are created equal." Thus the only real anti-racism is American patriotism. The 'anti-racism' taught (ie. indoctinated) in the education system is only skin deep -- a conformity to current social norms. But the emotions stirred when the flag-draped coffin of an American soldier -- who could be of any race -- rolls slowly down the main street of a small American town -- those emotions are far deeper than the shallow 'anti-racism' that the Left embraces. But the Left is not stupid. Although its core beliefs are profoundly anti-American -- which is why Howard Zinn's lying textbook has become common in our schools -- these people do know the value of pretending to be American patriots. Thus, while they prepare to assault the memories and statues of those slaveholders, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, they are quite willing to brazenly say "We are the true patriots." Really ... let's see. Their real heroines are not Betsy Ross, but Jane Fonda, infamously pictured peering through the sights of a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun as she pretended to shoot down Americans overhead. In New York City, the liberal City Council honored the Soviet spy, Ethyl Rosenberg. [https://nypost.com/2015/09/29/city-council-honors-woman-executed-for-treason-in-1953/] These people are not patriots, but anti-patriots. It's a shame that pro-Boards do not allow the posting of images, because I would post the image of another of their heroes, Bill Ayers, standing on an American flag. That's what they really think of America. Not a peep about Traitor and Putin. Not even remotely touched it. Another wide ranging kind of rambling post about a lot of nothing. Let me help you out and focused. How do yhou feel about Putin placing a bounty on the heads of American soldiers in Afghanistan? How do you feel about Traitor's response to the reports? Since I don't believe Trump is a traitor, as an extensive probe confirmed, I don't have to refute people who still suffer from that delusion. I don't know if Putin put a bounty on the heads of American soldiers in Afghanistan -- it's entirely possible, and we did the same to them when they were on the fool's errand of trying to bring some sort of civilization to Afghanistan. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Wilson%27s_War:_The_Extraordinary_Story_of_the_Largest_Covert_Operation_in_History]
What is interesting is that you cannot utter one word ... not even one word ... against my examples, which show that if the word "traitor" belongs to anyone, it belongs to people who mock shooting down American planes, or spying for the Soviet Union. People whom YOU honor today. So all this "traitor" bullnuts is like the thief running from the police, who shouts "Stop Thief!" to try to fool the onlookers into thinking he is a pursuer, instead of the pursued.
It's the Left -- people like YOU -- who burn American flags and tear down statues and indoctrinate our childen with Howard Zinn's poisonous Marxist ideology.
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Post by doug1943 on Jul 10, 2020 7:35:33 GMT -6
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Post by bostondave on Jul 10, 2020 13:58:22 GMT -6
Not a peep about Traitor and Putin. Not even remotely touched it. Another wide ranging kind of rambling post about a lot of nothing. Let me help you out and focused. How do yhou feel about Putin placing a bounty on the heads of American soldiers in Afghanistan? How do you feel about Traitor's response to the reports? Since I don't believe Trump is a traitor, as an extensive probe confirmed, I don't have to refute people who still suffer from that delusion. I don't know if Putin put a bounty on the heads of American soldiers in Afghanistan -- it's entirely possible, and we did the same to them when they were on the fool's errand of trying to bring some sort of civilization to Afghanistan. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Wilson%27s_War:_The_Extraordinary_Story_of_the_Largest_Covert_Operation_in_History]
What is interesting is that you cannot utter one word ... not even one word ... against my examples, which show that if the word "traitor" belongs to anyone, it belongs to people who mock shooting down American planes, or spying for the Soviet Union. People whom YOU honor today. So all this "traitor" bullnuts is like the thief running from the police, who shouts "Stop Thief!" to try to fool the onlookers into thinking he is a pursuer, instead of the pursued.
It's the Left -- people like YOU -- who burn American flags and tear down statues and indoctrinate our childen with Howard Zinn's poisonous Marxist ideology.
Whataboutery is weak nuts. Answer one simple question for me. How did you feel about Traitor inviting Russia to meddle? Remember "Russia, if you're listeining....."? A presidential candidate asking a foreign adversary to come meddle in our affairs. There's no whataboutery to compare. So, what do you think?
***Your argument consists of "Trump isn't a traitor because....because....well because what about all those other traitors?". That's your weakass argument. Whataboutery is weak shyte.
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Post by bostondave on Jul 10, 2020 19:03:36 GMT -6
Waiting to see if I have to literally fill a page showing how this not a very nice person is the most corrupt not a very nice person in the history of America. We can start with him pardoning/commuting Roger Stone. Found guilty in a fair trial. Flynn, pled guilty after being caught lying to federal investigators. But perhaps I won't have to list at least a page worth of chronicles of how he is the most corrupt not a very nice person in American history and we can just agree on it and we can move on to Russia. ***Oh and his lies would take PAGES. PAGES as in plural PAGES. Multiple pages of his lies. What in the holy name of hell has happened to you cons to follow such a reprehensible, repugnant, corrupt, venal, idiot, moron, absolutely and utterly immoral not a very nice person as this? Really, lets be honest. What is it? You hate blacks, gays? You hate what America is and want it to stop? Be honest. What is it? If you just love him because you don't know why then state that but just be honest. Stand up, square your shoulders and be honest about it. What in the holy name of hell makes you follow such a despicable, deplorable, repugnant, corrupt not a very nice person? Free your conscience and just be honest about it. If you can't describe it then state that. If you feel you just love him for some indescribable reassons just say it. Be honest. This is pure and utter insanity it really and truly is. We can leave off of his traitorous conduct and his noxious and odious character and just get to brass tacks and just say you are sort of under the sway of his cult appeal. Just be f**king honest about it. Be honest. I respect honesty and despise dishonesty.
***Lets see it started with DOJ inserting itself in the sentencing. THEN going on to sort of letting Stone stay out till Sept. THEN now finally letting him just off the hook entirely.
C;mon, stop the bullnutsting and just be honest here. What is it with this azshole?
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Post by bostondave on Jul 18, 2020 19:19:23 GMT -6
What's happened we had a good rhythm going there. I assume it's because we can skip me chronicling in a couple pages how this guy is the worst POTUS in history, the meanest, nastiest, most corrupt, most evil, stupidest.....literally pages. Since my last post he's had a few MORE scandals. Lets see he bragged about passing a kindergarten test at Walter Reed (and lied about how the doctors ooh'ed and aah'ed at how he "aced" it. Lets see commuted Roger Stone. Lets see he's ordered all reporting agencies to send the COVID numbers to the WH and cut out the CDC. Yeah nothing corrupt there at all. LEts see he threatened schools that didn't reopen with kids in person in school. LEts see claimes golfing is his "excersize" and he gets a lot done on the golf course. Not sure if that one shouldn't go into his 10 pages worth of 20Kplus lies. Lets see keeps repeating that if we just didn't test so much the numbers wouldn't be so high. Kinda like if you never weighed yourself you'd never gain weight. Lets see ....oh man so so much....his nieces book came out where she chronicles how mentally ill and corrupt he is. Lets see he unleashed some sort of secret police on demonstrators in Portland. ALL SINCE MY LAST POST HERE. JUST A MATTER OF DAYS!!!! He'd added about 100 lies since then. At least 2-3 pages showing how he is the most repugnant, odious , noxious, most evil, corrupt, worst POTUS in US history. I bet 6-8 pages of his lies. LETS FORGO me having to actually type out pages and pages and pages and admit he is the worst ever. And then we can get to Russia and THAN WE CAN GET TO WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO YOU AND TO YOU CONS. Because something has happened. Something very wrong and very twisted and very dangerous.
***I'll even let you use your favorite ploy of "whataboutery". Except it can't be "yeah well whatabout the time OBama did this, or whatabout the time Clinton did that". To qualify as being more corrupt, vile, venal, stupid it'd have to be Obama did this AND that AND that AND this AND that....for pages and pages. But lets face it you cannot. So we can just skip it and agree he's the most corrupt and evil.
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Post by bostondave on Jul 21, 2020 19:56:03 GMT -6
Lets see not sure this moron idiot evil death leader piles stuff so fast it's hard to keep track of. But I THINK since my last post he has deployed some nameless faceless goon squads to Portland where they round people up and whisk them away in unmarked minivans. Had a wide ranging interview with Mike Wallace where he piled on a couple more dozen lies. Said that eventually "it will all disappear" again. AND ITS COMING TO LIGHT HE WANTED THE BRITS TO MOVE THE OPEN TO HIS RESORT IN SVOTLAND AND ACTUALLY ASKED THE AMBASSADOR TO DO THIS.
Yes, lets dispense with the notion this guy isn't the most corrupt, vile, venal, stupid, crocked, corrupt president in US history and move on to how and why you find yourself supporting such a person.
Do you hate the gains black people have made, gays have made, a combination of both and all? American becoming too diverse for you and want it more white? You want America to be under Putin? You love and admire Putin's sort of fake authoritarian democracy and want that here in America? You just love and feel a kinship with Traitor? Enamored with his celebrity? His supposed billions? A cultist of a sort? C'mon spill it.
It can't be for conservative values because you could instead support a real conservative with real conservative bonafides over this noxious odios vile individual. So what is it about this guy you find yourself supporting? Can you explain that?
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Post by Rob W. Case on Jul 22, 2020 4:36:44 GMT -6
You have clearly demonstrated here what psychologists call the hypodermic effect in how a powerful media apparatus effectively manipulates both emotions and your perception of the world. You effectively demonstrate how a simple name like Donald Trump can project so much hatred, hyper emotional responses, fear, and anxiety, like watching a person self implode right in front of everyone to see. This effect reminds me of the opening scene in the film version of George Orwell's "Ninteen Eighty Four" where the character Emmanuel Goldstein (the man who escaped the totalitarian state of Oceania, and the left wing "Ingsoc" Party, because he thought independently outside of the boundaries of the Ingsoc Party, and promoted independence), was maligned against by Oceania's "Ministry of Truth" (propaganda ministry), triggering a hyper emotional response in the masses watching it. The very mention of his name sparked hateful feelings to the degree that they would scream and shout down everything he had to say, which, if heeded by the masses, they would experience independence.
Take a look at the scene I am referring to.
This is one of the reasons why I limit the influence of media in my daily routine. I have to guard my heart and mind because I look for problem solving solutions, common sense, and a determined will to change society for the better. It is very simple, and very straightforward. People who are heavily influenced by mass media cannot understand this, so they get tossed around by the wind each and every single day, adopting every position under the sun, so long as it is sanctioned, approved, and preached by those you allow to control your mind and belief system. This is why I can never get a response from you as you go on and on about some fake collusion story that even those accusing him couldn't provide evidence for when they were put under oath, and why you can't give me an answer as to why Barack Obama spent hundreds of millions of dollars helping Russia rebuild its military, when we were in a recession, and heard no explanation as to why it was okay for Hillary Clinton to sell America's uranium to them. Make no mistake, I am not defending Russia or Putin by any means, but its amazing how you guys easily shift from laughing off Russia as a viable threat (like McCain and Romney both said when they were running for president) to Russia is the biggest threat in the world, when the Democrat Party, the media, and the political machine, all collectively push a narrative that Trump colluded with the Russians in the 2016 election. Even Mueller, under oath, could not come to that conclusion, and he was out to get him. So all of the drama is all yours.
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Post by bostondave on Jul 22, 2020 5:42:41 GMT -6
You have clearly demonstrated here what psychologists call the hypodermic effect in how a powerful media apparatus effectively manipulates both emotions and your perception of the world. You effectively demonstrate how a simple name like Donald Trump can project so much hatred, hyper emotional responses, fear, and anxiety, like watching a person self implode right in front of everyone to see. This effect reminds me of the opening scene in the film version of George Orwell's "Ninteen Eighty Four" where the character Emmanuel Goldstein (the man who escaped the totalitarian state of Oceania, and the left wing "Ingsoc" Party, because he thought independently outside of the boundaries of the Ingsoc Party, and promoted independence), was maligned against by Oceania's "Ministry of Truth" (propaganda ministry), triggering a hyper emotional response in the masses watching it. The very mention of his name sparked hateful feelings to the degree that they would scream and shout down everything he had to say, which, if heeded by the masses, they would experience independence.
Take a look at the scene I am referring to.
This is one of the reasons why I limit the influence of media in my daily routine. I have to guard my heart and mind because I look for problem solving solutions, common sense, and a determined will to change society for the better. It is very simple, and very straightforward. People who are heavily influenced by mass media cannot understand this, so they get tossed around by the wind each and every single day, adopting every position under the sun, so long as it is sanctioned, approved, and preached by those you allow to control your mind and belief system. This is why I can never get a response from you as you go on and on about some fake collusion story that even those accusing him couldn't provide evidence for when they were put under oath, and why you can't give me an answer as to why Barack Obama spent hundreds of millions of dollars helping Russia rebuild its military, when we were in a recession, and heard no explanation as to why it was okay for Hillary Clinton to sell America's uranium to them. Make no mistake, I am not defending Russia or Putin by any means, but its amazing how you guys easily shift from laughing off Russia as a viable threat (like McCain and Romney both said when they were running for president) to Russia is the biggest threat in the world, when the Democrat Party, the media, and the political machine, all collectively push a narrative that Trump colluded with the Russians in the 2016 election. Even Mueller, under oath, could not come to that conclusion, and he was out to get him. So all of the drama is all yours. No, that type of whataboutery isn't allowed in this instance. We're talking about mean, nasty, evil and corrupt. Beyond your weak "whataboutism" what you're saying in an extremely verbose way is the simple-minded cry of "fake news". So this is easy. Copy/paste anything I typed and we can bore down on any one of the media stories that have "influenced" me. Lets talk facts and evidence. Pick out something and show it to be false. Or hell even if you think it's unfair or partially false/true. Pick it out.
And we're going to get to Russia, just be patient. There is a metric ton of evidence of Russian collusion. Mueller just found no criminal conspiracy, which is another matter. Even up to now he's unconcerned about Putin and bounties. But again, Russia later.
Right now pick out any number of stories and lets see how they're wrong, unfair and/or a partial story. That's the correct and proper course to take since you accuse me of being unduly inflienced by the media. Or it's all "fake news". So, let us proceed.
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