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Post by bostondave on Jun 14, 2018 13:01:01 GMT -6
Still nothing?
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Post by bostondave on Jun 18, 2018 4:43:04 GMT -6
Just revealed yet ANOTHER secret meeting between Drumpf operative Roger Stone and a Russian promising dirt on Clinton. Something like 11 freakin associates, operatives and Drumpf workers meeting with Russians and lying about it.
Anything from any body?
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Post by bostondave on Jun 18, 2018 17:36:27 GMT -6
Seems Caputo and Stone both "forgot" about the Russian contacts they both had. One thing is consistent, all Drumpf's people lied about their Russian contacts.
Anything from anybody? C'mon there are plenty of people reading. What's going on here?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 23:08:11 GMT -6
You have been asked to prove your claims which you havent. If they go after Stone for lying then they need to go after Clinton for lying to congress about the emails. Of course the Democrats always blame others.
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Post by Aaronb on Feb 24, 2019 4:40:21 GMT -6
According to trump, we should start giving drug dealers the death penalty. Those are words of tyranny. Thats how tryants think.
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Post by Aaronb on Feb 24, 2019 4:59:01 GMT -6
And trump is greedy also. If I had billions like he does, I would be helping poor and homeless people. He even admits that he's greedy. No sense in it. When you could make so many peoples lives more liveable and choose to be greedy. You could give homeless people a place to call home. Give food to people in africa, do something for humanity.
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Post by Rob W. Case on Feb 24, 2019 16:52:08 GMT -6
And trump is greedy also. If I had billions like he does, I would be helping poor and homeless people. He even admits that he's greedy. No sense in it. When you could make so many peoples lives more liveable and choose to be greedy. You could give homeless people a place to call home. Give food to people in africa, do something for humanity.
That's a hot one! Even just basic research would profoundly state that this isn't at all the case.
For Example:
Before Trump became president, there was a 93 page report released by the Washington Post that listed his charitable giving.
That report can be found HERE.
After he became president, Trump has so far donated his ENTIRE SALARY to various charities. That's his prerogative, out of the kindness of his own heart, not an obligation.
Now President Obama, with the help of Congress, gave himself a raise early in his presidency, and certainly didn't donate his entire salary. In fact he donated practically nothing compared to Trump, and not much at all when you take Trump completely out of the equation. I remember this being talked about when he was president, because they compared his charitable to former President George W.. Bush and Dick Cheney, and the numbers showed that Bush and Cheney were incredibly generous in their giving, while President Obama was not.
There is an article about Obama's giving throughout his entire 8 year presidency by Forbes, which can be found right HERE.
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Post by bostondave on Oct 14, 2019 9:19:26 GMT -6
This list includes 4,844 individual gifts, which add up to more than $102 million over five years. A Washington Post analysis found that the bulk of them were actually free rounds of golf, given away by Trump's courses for local charity auctions and raffles.
No doubt deducted as a charitable gift as a part of his crooked filings. The ones he is moving heaven and earth, and breaking laws, trying to keep secret.
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Post by Rob W. Case on Oct 14, 2019 22:27:18 GMT -6
This list includes 4,844 individual gifts, which add up to more than $102 million over five years. A Washington Post analysis found that the bulk of them were actually free rounds of golf, given away by Trump's courses for local charity auctions and raffles.
No doubt deducted as a charitable gift as a part of his crooked filings. The ones he is moving heaven and earth, and breaking laws, trying to keep secret.
Nope, just useless conspiracy and noise. Sit back. Relax. America is beginning to thrive more than it has in a very long time. There is much more good news than there is bad news happening because we are actually adopting sound common sense policies, and all the Democrats want to do is stir up an overbearing degree of senseless drama and noise to discourage Trump voters from turning out for him in 2020. I keep telling people, that the left will once again overreach (because they cannot help themselves) to an overwhelming and overbearing degree that they will assure a Trump victory in 2020.
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Post by bostondave on Oct 19, 2019 10:20:33 GMT -6
Again breathtaking. The numbers and types of people who are traitors to their country is absolutely jaw dropping. If anyone had told me just 20 years ago cons would turn traitorous to America I would have called them absolutely nuts.
**Or that cons would throw morality to the wind and crap on the Constitution again I'd have called them crazy. This is nothing short of mind blowing.
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Post by Rob W. Case on Oct 19, 2019 15:58:40 GMT -6
Again breathtaking. The numbers and types of people who are traitors to their country is absolutely jaw dropping. If anyone had told me just 20 years ago cons would turn traitorous to America I would have called them absolutely nuts. **Or that cons would throw morality to the wind and crap on the Constitution again I'd have called them crazy. This is nothing short of mind blowing.
Trump's approach is very simple and very straightforward. He is working to return leverage to the American people, not politically connected corporate entities. This isn't being a traitor to America, it is restoring America and putting Americans in charge. America has descended to a level of corruption to a crippling degree. For far too long European bankers, corporate monopolies, the political class, etc. have been put ahead of us and our interests at our expense, and Trump has made enemies with a good many of them. If you think about it, he would have a lot more friends doing things the way Washington does them. He doesn't have many friends in Washington because he is not for sale for one, and his political capital with the American people rests on him being detached from the pay to play, business as usual model that many of our politicians profit from themselves. That's why there is such ferocity in the resistance against him. If you're corrupt you don't get into politics to lose money. You get into politics to make money and to b.s. your constituents into justifying what you're doing in order to get what you want. Pelosi is a master at this dynamic in action. Trump doesn't do that. He is going after real problems that politicians don't dare go into because they want to keep those problems alive and kicking. The more problems he fixes the more political capital he takes from those who profit from that. That also puts his opponents into a corner, because they will be put in a position to defend the indefensible and try to promote the reinstating of the components that keep those problems alive. It's a very contrived system.
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Post by bostondave on Oct 20, 2019 11:12:42 GMT -6
So what's this playing footsie with Putin have to do with restoring America to Americans? Lets face it he's doing no such thing. He's looking to enrich himself first and doesn't really care about America very much. Otherwise why is he asking multiple countries to attack our sovereignty and our system? You're all wet with that junk that simply doesn't hold up to even casual analysis.
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Post by Rob W. Case on Oct 21, 2019 17:22:13 GMT -6
So what's this playing footsie with Putin have to do with restoring America to Americans? Lets face it he's doing no such thing. He's looking to enrich himself first and doesn't really care about America very much. Otherwise why is he asking multiple countries to attack our sovereignty and our system? You're all wet with that junk that simply doesn't hold up to even casual analysis. Stop watching CNN, MSNBC, and Rachel Maddow. It's overwhelmingly obvious that you're watching and absorbing way too much fake news. It's all frivolous and baseless, and has nothing to do with the country or reality for that matter. In fact, everything that the Democrat Party stands for now is predicated only on being anti-Trump. There is no intelligent conversation about tackling any issues because issues are not what the party cares about tackling. There are no alternative ideas being discussed whatsoever. There is only provoked derangement towards Trump and heavily funded campaign strategies running on deception. More and more people are taking notice of this, and tuning this absurdity out.
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Post by bostondave on Oct 21, 2019 21:39:28 GMT -6
So what's this playing footsie with Putin have to do with restoring America to Americans? Lets face it he's doing no such thing. He's looking to enrich himself first and doesn't really care about America very much. Otherwise why is he asking multiple countries to attack our sovereignty and our system? You're all wet with that junk that simply doesn't hold up to even casual analysis. Stop watching CNN, MSNBC, and Rachel Maddow. It's overwhelmingly obvious that you're watching and absorbing way too much fake news. It's all frivolous and baseless, and has nothing to do with the country or reality for that matter. In fact, everything that the Democrat Party stands for now is predicated only on being anti-Trump. There is no intelligent conversation about tackling any issues because issues are not what the party cares about tackling. There are no alternative ideas being discussed whatsoever. There is only provoked derangement towards Trump and heavily funded campaign strategies running on deception. More and more people are taking notice of this, and tuning this absurdity out. Firstly I would submit those entities you mentioned adhere to a fairly high level of journalistic principles. I would guess much more than any that you could claim to prefer.
Secondly that he is playing footsie with Putin is factually correct. We saw him stand up on a world stage at a podium right next to Putin and take Putin's side against his own country. That also safe to conclude he is strenuously trying to do everyting in his power to remove sanctions from Russia. There is more than a little evidence to show he colluded with Russia to attack us. His son certainly did, as well as his campaign manager. We saw him ask Russia to help him out against Hillary.
Now the ONLY thing I typed that might be speculative is that he is only interested in his own self interest. But perhaps you can tell me a better conclusion taking into account all the other evidences and facts of him again playing footsie with Putin and Russia AND asking Ukraine to help him against his political rival. Not treasonous according to statute or the Constitution but certainly a betrayal. Traitorous. Oh and lets not forget his Emoluments violations and his proposed G7 summit being held on his own property. He's been doing it domestically for awhile now, using his office to enrich himself.
So, please attempt to factually pick apart anything there.
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Post by Rob W. Case on Oct 22, 2019 20:07:59 GMT -6
Firstly I would submit those entities you mentioned adhere to a fairly high level of journalistic principles. I would guess much more than any that you could claim to prefer. Perhaps they may say that on their "about page," but they do not adhere to [especially objective] high journalistic principles by a long shot. Just within this past year alone over the last couple of weeks we heard tape of Jeff Zucker, the head of CNN driving the narratives that the Democrats are pushing and Russia was one of them. Now it is impeachment. In 2016 Wikileaks dumped an array of emails where many in the media was colluding with the Clinton campaign's John Podesta to push the image that the DNC wanted for that season. Then we have all of these conspiratorial actors pushing these inane conspiracies about Trump that never go anywhere or have serious impact outside of their newsrooms. I checked the audience demographics for them too. Partisan Democrats largely make up for most of CNN's viewers. MSNBC's audience is overwhelmingly Democrat by nature. So what you have are partisan Democrats providing political "red meat" to the party faithful. That's why there is so much of a chasm between their contrived narratives and the reality of things. I am not looking at the charges and noise regarding them. I am looking at facts, legalities, policy decisions, and concrete actions. Guess what? Outside of those outlets and by the DNC which spearheads them, there are none.
Secondly that he is playing footsie with Putin is factually correct. We saw him stand up on a world stage at a podium right next to Putin and take Putin's side against his own country. That also safe to conclude he is strenuously trying to do everyting in his power to remove sanctions from Russia. There is more than a little evidence to show he colluded with Russia to attack us. His son certainly did, as well as his campaign manager.We saw him ask Russia to help him out against Hillary. Give it up. The DNC and the media is past this narrative already. Now they are focusing on the Ukraine thing because Trump asked them to look into corruption involving Hunter Biden. The chief thing here is corruption. The Russia thing never made any sense because Hillary Clinton made deals with the Russians and Barack Obama gave them billions trying to rebuild their military, while telling Medvedev that he will have more flexibility to work with them after he is re-elected. No Democrat cared or pretended to care. Romney put out the concern about Russia but the Democrats just yawned and thought that the threat of Russia being remotely dangerous was just a "kooky conspiracy theory." Now, they actually make up a kooky conspiracy theory about a country that we need to be concerned about (meaning that Romney was right in that regard), but now all of a sudden the left goes from just yawning to complete hysteria and panic. It's scary to see how they just flip it all on and off at whim like that. Just because those who supply you with your "red meat" are getting you all riled up, you feel that you have to follow it. But again. Russia had much more favor with Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton than he could ever have with Trump. the ONLY thing I typed that might be speculative is that he is only interested in his own self interest. But perhaps you can tell me a better conclusion taking into account all the other evidences and facts of him again playing footsie with Putin and Russia AND asking Ukraine to help him against his political rival. Not treasonous according to statute or the Constitution but certainly a betrayal. Traitorous. Oh and lets not forget his Emoluments violations and his proposed G7 summit being held on his own property. He's been doing it domestically for awhile now, using his office to enrich himself. Two things here:
1. If there is speculation of corruption, a president can look into that. There is nothing illegal about that whatsoever. Democrats have gotten so comfortable doing whatever they want and controlling the message for so long that holding them or their people accountable is unthinkable and deserving of punishment. That is why they are trying to weaponize the law and the workings of the federal government to try and impeach Trump for the "sin" of looking into corruption involving one of their own. And if there is a loophole that they cannot exploit, then they will for certain try to manipulate public opinion to try and get the masses to want to impeach Trump and to hurry up and get back to the way business was (and the way Washington D.C. normally worked) before he became president.
2. Trump's policies are far tougher on Russia than Obama's ever was. If you listen to the fake news, they don't cover anything regarding Trump's sanctions or tough policies towards Russia. But they are there. Trump talks about them all the time when he mentions Russia or in his press conferences with other world leaders. And so, because this dynamic never gets covered, you have to look to see that this is the case. Also, holding a G7 Summit on his own property is smart. It assures that everything is secure and under control. If he can't be bought (since he has everything), and he is losing money being president, then why would he go the extra mile to get a few thousand here and a few thousand there from dignitaries? Doesn't add up.
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